First short trip

We are going to visit Germany next May (with my wife). My plan so far includes

- Frankfurt (early Sunday), Colonge (the same day just for Cathedral), night somewhere on Rhine (Koblenz or around).

- (Monday) to see Mosel Valley

- (Tuesday) to see Rhine Valley and stay in Baden-Baden

- (Wednesday) spend in Baden-Baden

-(Thursday) travel to Bavaria and stay near near Mad Ludvig castle

- (Friday) see castles and move to Minich

- (Sat/Sun) in Munich

- (Mon) go to Rothenburg and stay here

- (Tue) go to Frankfurt airport

My questions to you guys:

- where better to use train instead of car? Which pass to buy (train or train and car if somebody used it).

- where to stay on Rhine river cities and where to use boat?

- what is %26quot;must to see%26quot; near Rhine?

Thank you,

Ahuinber

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Hi Ahuinbar,

no answered your post, so I%26#39;ll try to help. Fist, May is a good time to visit Germany. If you land in Frankfurt, there is not too much to see and do, yet it is not too dull. 4-5 hours for the city is sufficient, yet no must.

As for your itinery - sounds nice, but a little bit packed, but having 10 day in Germany not too bad. With this itinery I would recommend driving a car because it will give you the flexibilitiy you need, on the other hand trains are the classic way to explore Europe. Yet especially in Germany train rides are pricy, if not booked in advance and commiting yourself to a certain train (e.g. the ICE train from Frankfurt to Cologne at 10a.m....).

For Frankfurt watch check the walking tour of MarkKHanau on tripadvisor.

In Cologne visit the cathedral (its outer surrounding is not to pleasant, though) and if you are interested the Roman Museum next to it (right at the train station).

Can%26#39;t really comment on the Rhine and Mossel Valley, both are beautiful and may be best explored with a cruise(check the numerous posts for rhine river cruise). A small and popular, but overdeveloped small town at the Rhine Valley is Rüdesheim, but some small towns along the left or right river bank might give you a better idea or the region (a car would come handy for this part).

Baden-Baden is beautiful, just stroll along this city. You may want to visit the casino and the famous old bath (forgot its name Kaiser Friedrich Therme??).

For castle Neuschwanstein it might be an idea to stay in a Bavarian %26quot;Gästezimmer%26quot; (Bed and Breakfast) in one of the villages there to get an idea of rustical Bavaria. For the most part they are inexpensive and nice and give you an idea of %26quot;old-fashioned%26quot; Bavarian Life.

On Munich I am not an expert, and any book can give better advise.

Rothenburg ob der Tauber is one of the few medival cities in Germany that give you the idea that you are in some movie scene. I have been there as a child and was amazed, but that has been quite a while.

This is the best I can help you...maybe someone else has more specific infos.

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many spelling mistakes, sorry, hope you still get the idea.

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Thank you Dudel!

I used your advices and made soem more search on Internet and here%26#39;s my updated itenerary

May 19 - flight from SFO to FRA

May 20 Sunday - Rhine Valley, St. Goar

Arrival to Frankfurt 07:20 --%26gt; Train to St. Goar or part way by boat

--- Frankfurt to St. Goar 2 hour 29 Evro

--- Frankfurt to Bacharach %26lt;2 hour 20 Evro Then by boat to St Goar

ToDo - See castle there and some places around

ToStay - Hotel am Markt - St. Goar

double room with shower,wc,tv,ph. 62.00 Euro.per night .

%26lt;info@hotel-am-markt-sankt-goar.de%26gt;

The cancellation policy is two weeks. we have garage cost 4.00 euro.

May 21 Monday - Rhine and Mossel Valley

ToDo - Go to Cologne by train, see cathedral Take a car

Orbitz/Hertz 8 days Amount due at pick-up 215.52 EUR

- drive and see Eltz Castle and some other places around

ToStay - Hotel am Markt - St. Goar

May 22 Tuesday - Rhine Valley and Black forest

ToDo - see something else around St Goar (by car/boat) then

By car from St Goar to Baden-Baden

ToStay - Hotel am Markt - Baden-Baden

Marktplatz 18 D-76530 Baden-Baden

info@hotel-am-markt-baden.de D.Jung www.hotel-am-markt-baden.de

May 22nd for two nights a double room with shower and toilet

The price per night is Euro 78.- + 5.60 spa tax including breakfast.

Please note that our reception is open till 10p.m.

There are no cancellation charges for accomomodation cancelled more

than 72 hours in advance, thereafter your credit card will be debited

with the first night charge of your accommodation.

We have some parking in front of the hotel. Cost 3.- Euro per night

otherwise is a free public parking in walking distance.

May 23 Wednesday - Baden-Baden

ToDo - Bath, Casino, promenade

ToStay - Hotel am Markt - Baden-Baden

May 24 Thursday - road to Bavaria (Constance Lake?)

ToDo - Driving Hohenschwangau, see all around

ToStay - Hotel Garni Schlossblick Hohenschwangau

Hotel Garni Schlossblick Hohenschwangau

reservierung@neuschwanstein-hotels.de Kastelic Barbara

1 double room with shower/WC including continental breakfast buffet at the rate of Euro 62,00

per room/night The local visitors tax of Euro 1.35 per person/night will be charged separately.

Please note that our reception closes at 8.00 p.m. - in case of late arrival

we would appreciate a phone call to inform us.

So we will deposit the key on the reception from the Schlosshotel Lisl

(Tel.: 08362-81649)

May 25 Friday - Castles

ToDo - See Mad Ludwig%26#39;s Royal Neuschwanstein and Hohenschwangau Castles

Arrival to Munich (Romantic Road)

ToStay - Hotel Uhland

Hotel Uhland Uhlandstra?e 1, D - 80336 Munchen/Germany/Bavaria

Voice:+49 (Germany) - (0)89 (Munich) - 54335-0

Fax:+49 - (0)89 - 54335 -250 eMail: info@hotel-uhland.de

http://www.hotel-uhland.de/enwelcome.html

1 double room of

comfort class with private shower and toilet for 3 nights of May, 25th 2007.

The rate of Euro 90,50 includes breakfast, service and tax, per room, per night, net hotel.

All our rooms are established with TV, telephone and minibar.

Parking-space for your car is in our backyard.

May 26 Saturday - Munich

ToDo - See Museums and city

ToStay - Hotel Uhland

May 27 Sunday - Munich

ToDo - See city and around, parks

ToStay - Hotel Uhland

May 28 Monday

ToDo - Departure from Munich, Arrival to Rothenburg by Romantic Road

ToStay - Hotel - %26quot;Zum Greifen%26quot;

Gasthof Greifen %26lt;gasthof-greifen@t-online.de%26gt;/ Ursula

a small double room for 2 persons with shower/Wc for 65.- Euros per night

including breakfast and a parking place behind the house.

May 29 Tuesday

ToDo - Drive to Frankfurt,

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