Travelling from the Bavarian Alps to the Austrian Alps

Hello there.

I%26#39;m planning a honeymoon for me and the wife-to-be in May this year. What we want to do is explore the the Alps in Bavaria and in Austria - mountain views out of the windows, peaks on the doorstep, that kind of thing. The problem is, I don%26#39;t really know where to start. I was hoping to get some pointers on the best areas to go to (one in Bavaria, one in Austria), the best way of travelling around (is hiring a car feasible, is it better to fly or use the trains?) and such like. We%26#39;d really like it to be special. I know this is a big, sweeping question but any help would be much appreciated. Thanps for looking, P.

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Three suggestions for the Bavarian Alps

1. Allgäu/Königswinkel (King%26#39;s Corner)

http://www.allgaeu.info

http://www.fuessen.de

http://www.neuschwanstein.de

2. Werdenfelser Land

http://www.garmisch-partenkirchen.de

www.zugspitze.de/zugspitze/rundreise_en.php

http://www.mittenwald.de

Zugspitze is Germany%26#39;s highest mountain. Actually it%26#39;s also half Austrian (they have higher ones in other parts of the Alps). All 3 regions here sit directly on the Bavarian/Austrian border.

Mittenwald is one of the nicest towns in the Alps.

3. Berchtesgadener Land/Lake Königssee

http://www.berchtesgadener-land.inco

http://www.koenigssee.com

close to the Austrian city of Salzburg

http://www.salzburg.info

You can fly into Munich or e.g. with Ryanair also to Salzburg.

Salzburg and the Berchtesgadener Land have anyway a common public transport system. All 3 can be reached easily from Munich by train. From Garmisch and Mittenwald the train route goes on to Innsbruck in Austria.

If you want however to travel from region 1 to 2 to 3 a car is your best option. You can follow the German Alpine Road

http://www.deutsche-alpenstrasse.de/

Or you can zig-zag between Bavaria and Austria. The borders are there anyway nearly unvisible in the meantime. But keep in mind that you have to buy a vignette (sticker) to use the Austrian autobahns.

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You may wish to check the response of Marcopolko to the recent message %26quot;Honeymoon Hotel?%26quot; in the Garmisch-Partenkirchen forum. Also-- Garmisch is itself an attractive town. If you want a bit more privacy, try the hotel on the Reisersee above the town. For real privacy and mountain views, google the webpage for the Foresthaus Grasek in Garmisch. You park i the gorge down below and take a cable car to the hotel, in an Alpine meadow looking at the Alps.

Oberammergau also has some very attractive hotels and decent rates and is well located for sightseeing. Finally, in addition to the hotel mentioned by Marcopolko, the Hotel Muller in Hohenschwangau and several others in that small town or in Schwangau have beautiful views and good locations.

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Hi guys.

Thanks for your input. That%26#39;s been really helpful.

The hardest part is knowing where to start on something like this, and wanting to get it right puts even more pressure on.

Cheers.

TP

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Tours in berlin

Hi I%26#39;m off to Berlin in 2 weeks and am wondering if its worth taking an organised tour around the city??

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I would highly recommend to start your Berlin visit with one of the offered walking tours.

e.g.

http://www.brewersberlintours.com/

http://www.insidertour.com/

http://www.newberlintours.com/

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General Safety

How safe is central Cologne late at night, around midnight? I am staying in hotel allegro near the Rhine. Is it safe to walk around the city centre areas back to my hotel?

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Hi

I was there less than two years ago with my mother and aunt and we walked everywhere. Our hotel was along the Rhine also and we never encountered any problems or never felf nervous and we were three women so you should be fine.

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We were in Cologne 2 weeks ago. I felt very safe and never saw any trouble when out at night. We ended up in a bar that was open until 6 am ( don%26#39;t know where because we were lost at the time) and we never saw any drunks! We were approached a few times by beggars while we were waiting for trams though but they weren%26#39;t aggressive.

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few hour in Frankfurt

I will be arriving at the airport next month just before 11am. My flight out is at 10pm.

Can you recommend some or any activity during the day.

Thank you.

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With only four or five hours available, I would suggest Frankfurt%26#39;s Römerburg. This is the altstadt (old city) of Frankfurt. Frankfurt is the most modern city in Germany and ond one of the largest banking cities in Europe. Being in the altstadt is like entering a different world. Most of the sights close around 5PM which gives you time for a good meal at any of the area restaurants with plenty of time to get back to the airport. Hope this helps.

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Instead of taking the S-bahn into Frankfurt, you could take it the other direction to either Mainz or Wiesbaden if you would like to visit smaller cities with a more %26quot;German%26quot; appearance. Persomally, I would choose Frankfurt but these are other easy options. All three places have enough to occupy your day.

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markopolko:

how much is the fare FRA-Mainz? how long is the trip?

why would you go into Frankfurt rather than Mainz?

if one went to Mainz, do you have any restaurant recommendations?

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Frankfurt Airport to Frankfurt or Mainz is the same price.

Single ticket is EUR 3,55. Mini group day ticket (2-5 persons) is EUR 13,40.

Frankfurt is better for shopping, nightlife and museums. And skyscrapers if you%26#39;re into.

http://www.frankfurt-tourismus.de

Mainz is smaller. But has also some good museums. It was not as severe destroyed in WWII and is more of a typical German city.

mainz.de/WGAPublisher/…hpkr-5nkgnz.en.html

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Eleni K,

My reason for prefering Frankfurt is it%26#39;s a major German city and Germany%26#39;s financial center. I would frequently fly to the airport and make transfers there and would always wonder what the city was like. Now I know after one short visit and traversing it several times by train. It is not typical of German cities with its having many skyscrapers. On the other hand, I%26#39;ve never had any desire to see Mainz, although I%26#39;m sure that like most German cities it is interesting. It%26#39;s kind of like flying into New York City, but instead of visiting it, going across the river to Hoboken, NJ to visit instead, although in this case Mainz is a nice town. Frankfurt being a larger city also has many more things to see and do, although I%26#39;m sure that either city is enjoyable to visit, just a different experience.

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Hotel

I am meeting my husband in Munich for three days in early February. Can anyone recommend a mid-priced hotel that is in the city center and close to public transportation?

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I found on TripAdvisor, the Hotel Mercure Munchen City Center. It is right by the main train station in Munich. I am going to book my stay at this hotel for April. It got some nice write ups on the review boards and the prices seem reasonable.

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Diving from Stuttgart to Calais

I%26#39;m due to fly into Stuttgart in early March to collect a car to return to the UK via Calais.

I%26#39;m planning to take a couple of days to travel over to Calais, spending a night somewhere along the way.

Can anybody suggest a route which will allow me to take in some of the most interesting places along the way?

I%26#39;m not bothered about going into any of the really big cities (although am intrigued about Luxembourg maybe?) and speed is not really of essence as I reckon 2 days should give me ample time to get accross at my own speed.

Particularly attracted to scenic views and medieval villages rather than museums and shopping malls!

Any suggestions gratefully received.

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Driving through the Rhine gorge (Rudesheim/Bingen to Koblenz) and along the Mosel River to Luxembourg would be a good scenic route with way too much to stop and see. You could also use the autobahns that are a short distance away and dirve off of them to visit a few towns. And then on through Luxembourg and Belgium. The city Luxembourg is also interesting to visit.

While in Stuttgart make sure to see the excellent Mercedes Museum with 120 years of their history on display in the form of 160 automobiles. If you have any questions about Sindelfingen or Stuttgart, I%26#39;d be happy to answer them as I now live in Stuttgart and my wife has lived in Sindelfingen many years. If you%26#39;re happening to pick up a Porsche instead of a Mercedes, their museum is much smaller but a new one is being built to be completed next year.

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Seefeld (Austria) to Munich via neuschwanstein

I would like to catch the train from Seefeld in Tryol (Austria) to munich but would like to go via Neuschwanstein as a day trip on our way. Is this possible by train?

What is the cheapest tickets to buy?

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Not the ideal itinereray to do by train. If you could reach Garmisch really early you could do a bus tour from there, they have one about once a week. There are also regional buses you could take, takes a bit of time though. To see how that would work look at bahn.de

Garmisch-Partenkirchen Bahnhof to Füssen Bahnhof

(takes about 2.30h)

Cheapest ticket would be Bayern-Ticket valid from Mittenwald, so for the austrian part seefeld-mittenwald you%26#39;d need an extra ticket.

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Actually it would be possible to take a local train from Garmisch to Reutte in Tirol. It is about 5-6 km from Füssen, unfortunately not connected by rail. There is a rather irregular bus connection, but you could as well take a taxi from Reutte to Füssen - it shouldn%26#39;t be too expensive. Then do your sightseeing there and take a train from Füssen to Munich. The Bayern-Ticket is valid on both lines ( Garmisch-Reutte and Füssen-Munich).

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Hi Altamiro, are taxis from Reutte Bahnhof to Fussen readily available or are taxi drivers faced with regulatory issues crossing the border (i.e. having to be licensed in both countries)? Thanks.

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Reutte is approx. 23 km from Füssen.

You can continue to Vils, which is also on the Ausserfernbahn (the railroad Garmisch - Reutte - Pfronten). Vils is 11 km from Füssen.

There is one closer stop %26quot;Füssen-Ullrichsbrücke%26quot;, but this is only a stop, no railway station. In summer you can hike from there to Neuschwanstein. But I fear this is not the right place to find a taxi.

The Ausserfernbahn is covered by the Bavaria Ticket. Also the part where it goes trough Austria (it is not connected to any Austrian railway line).

Taxis can drive you across borders. There are anyway no border controls between the Schengen countries, thus you barely will notice it.

If the taxi is allowed to pick up passengers for the way back is another question. But as this is rather a short drive, this won%26#39;t play a role.

There are also other route options.

DB timetable

http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/e

From: Seefeld in Tirol

To: Hohenschwangau

Hohenschwangau is the bus stop next to the ticket booth of Neuschwanstein castle.

From Mittenwald on you can use the Bavaria Ticket. It maybe however more practical to buy it in Garmisch or other railway stations where you have to change anyway and can buy it from a ticket machine. This ticket is valid one day for all local public transport in Bavaria. This includes the local trains (there are no others on your route) the RVO buses (to Hohenschwangau). And also the U-Bahn, trams and buses in Munich.

Bavaria Ticket Single (1 person) is EUR 18,00

Bavaria Ticket (2-5 persons) is EUR 25,00

The ticket is on weekdays only valid past 9am.

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Good Afternoon Sarnads, Melbourne,

We seen your post, and are planning to be in Seefeld, Austria for the first time in October, 2007; we are wondering if you or other travelers have made the trip to Seefeld, and if so, were you able to find your way to see the attractions in the area. We are traveling by train and wanted to stay in Seefeld, and visit attractions such as Linderhof Castle, Oberammegau, or a day tour to Munich to the Oktoberfest Celebrations. Thus far we have not been able to find day tours that will provide this service from Seefeld or Innsbruck. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Sailorwoman, Clearwater, FL.

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